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The_montreal_Fig

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I have recently done an experiment that I didn’t really believe that it would ever succeed.

I bought a package of dried figs from Greece at my local supermarket recently. As I was eating them I decided to remove a few seeds and wash off the sugar from them.

Next thing I did I put them in a small Tupperware in a warm spot to see if they would ever germinate. To my surprise when I had a look at them after 3 weeks some of the seeds started to germinate!

Most probably these seeds were pollinated by insects when they were growing in Greece. Yet, these germinations might end up being male plants whole will not produce fruits. However, it is very interesting to see that it is possible after I read in a few places that this is impossible.

Here is also a proof:

(The image is of a very bad quality but this was the best my camera could do)  


 

 

 

Anyone had any similar experiences?


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<Yet, these germinations might end up being male plants whole will not produce fruits. >
Keep in mind that even if they are "Females" They will not produce edible fruits unless they are polinated by male polen via wasp
Only if the male parent of the fig that was producing the supermarket figs was a persistant male caprifig,you stand a small chance to have a few inferior hybrids that will produce some bland fruits.
"BUT",and their is a BUT,"Persistant male Caprifig are very poor polinator,so traditionally they are not used for polination of crop.
I am to nice to tell you that you are not going to be succesfull,and will not get what you want,and let someone else ,or "nature" tell you that.If you want to grow fruitting figs ,find cuttings in your area.
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This is just an experiment…

I already have a few cuttings growing therefore I am not counting on these seeds to produce fruits. I will let them grow to see what will happen.
Thanks for the info Herman

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From my first set of seeds, 3 never fruited, 2 have fruit the size of a peanut, one is pretty decent, and one (which a friend has) is supposedly the best fig they have ever eaten.

From my second batch, 1 caprifig, 6 haven't fruited yet, 1 is pretty good, and one (based on two fruit its first season) has the potential to be quite awesome.

It is a low percentage game, but when they come up from where birds dropped them, I play with them. 

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Jon :Are you talking about your Vista seeds?
Because if you are then it is a different ball game.
Because you have:Vista(partneocarpic,common)+Caprifig(cauducou s)=Vista Seedling.
In the Supermarket fig case,chance is zero,persistant,because:
He got:Smirna,other Turkish figs,(cauducous)+Caprifig(cauducous) =All Cauducous Seadling(No persistant figs).
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Jon,
I have Enchantment, and encanto vista seedlings,  none have fruited for me yet. Which ones fruited for you?



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I did experiment with dried fig seeds ~2 years ago.
Just to see, (any)  first time a fig seedlings in my life....
Tried Turkish smyrna, CA (same) calmyrna  and  mission.
Mission seeds were all duds, the other 2  sprouted and grew like weeds!
Of course, me having a  limited  space to fool around fig-nature, all were destroyed.
George (NJ).
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The first batch were from Vista Mission seeds. Encanto has fruited and is pretty good. Enchantment has not. The second batch are presumed to be from Black Madeira, as they grew under that tree. The two that have fruited are greenish, not dark as their presumed parent is.


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What about this? from http://waynesword.palomar.edu/pljun99b.htm

9. Female trees may also produce apomictic seeds--i.e. without pollination and subsequent fertilization. In general there are two main types of apomixis:

[1] Parthenogenesis (agamogenesis): A haploid or diploid egg within the embryo sac (or diploid cell from 2 fused haploid cells of embryo sac) develops into an embryo. [Formation of haploid cells may involve crossing over during Prophase I of meiosis resulting in some genetic variability.]

[2] Agamospermy: An embryo arises from tissue surrounding the embryo sac. If this involves cells of the nucellus or inner integument it is called a nucellar embryo. Nucellar embryos are chromosomally identical to the sporophyte parent. They are essentially clones of the female tree. Apomictic seeds allow propagation of choice edible fig cultivars (female trees) without the transmission of viruses through cuttings.

Are black mission figs from California viable seeded or will any that sprout be clones?



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I kept some seeds from a fig I bought at a street market in Munich, Germany. I put some in a wet paper towel in a zip sandwich bag, and now have little sprouts.
I have planted several and hope to be able to nurse them into a tree.
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@hrhcsh, I think you borked up your image link.  Here is the picture that I think you meant to post:



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